1 00:00:13,265 --> 00:00:15,559 [man] I think it's a bit-- We've got so many nods to Pepsi 2 00:00:15,559 --> 00:00:16,851 that for you to have a Pepsi can 3 00:00:16,851 --> 00:00:18,311 - is a bit of no-no. - I don't need it, no. 4 00:00:18,311 --> 00:00:20,730 - But it's kind of, "what the fuck?" - And we know the environment. 5 00:00:20,730 --> 00:00:22,274 - Yes, yeah. - Yes. Okay. 6 00:00:22,274 --> 00:00:24,359 And... we'll just play around with that, 7 00:00:24,359 --> 00:00:26,319 and then we'll do one different shot here. 8 00:00:26,319 --> 00:00:28,446 But I just want to get something in the can straight away. 9 00:00:28,446 --> 00:00:30,031 - Okay. Okay. - And I think it will work. 10 00:00:30,031 --> 00:00:33,118 You haven't changed at all over 30 years, but you know that. 11 00:00:33,118 --> 00:00:35,912 I redo this commercial every ten years just to make sure. 12 00:00:35,912 --> 00:00:38,873 I'm very flattered that I'm the 2021 edition. 13 00:00:40,292 --> 00:00:43,128 {\an8}Just come a little bit more this way. Come forward. 14 00:00:45,755 --> 00:00:46,631 [camera clicking] 15 00:00:46,631 --> 00:00:48,758 A little bit more this-- That's it. That's it. 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,890 [Cindy] I never in a million years thought I would still be in front of the camera... 17 00:00:56,141 --> 00:00:59,227 [chuckles] ...35 five years after I started modeling. 18 00:00:59,227 --> 00:01:01,646 I mean, uh, no. Yeah, even more. 19 00:01:01,646 --> 00:01:04,398 I started modeling when I was 17. 20 00:01:04,398 --> 00:01:06,359 So, that's a long time. [chuckles] 21 00:01:07,027 --> 00:01:08,153 [camera clicking] 22 00:01:08,153 --> 00:01:11,406 I don't think there was a... like, a long-term plan 23 00:01:11,406 --> 00:01:14,910 for most young women who started modeling. 24 00:01:17,954 --> 00:01:22,459 Because we thought about maybe you'd have a five-year career. 25 00:01:23,251 --> 00:01:25,045 [Younger Cindy] It would be silly for me to say 26 00:01:25,045 --> 00:01:27,255 that physical beauty's not important for our job because it is. 27 00:01:27,255 --> 00:01:31,301 But I think everyone knows it's-- It sounds such a cliché to say 28 00:01:31,301 --> 00:01:34,763 that, you know, beauty's on the inside, but-- but it's really true. 29 00:01:34,763 --> 00:01:36,306 - [camera clicking] - Great, that's good. 30 00:01:36,306 --> 00:01:39,142 But there's a kind of physical beauty that's about... 31 00:01:40,268 --> 00:01:43,855 ...physically how you look, but I mean, that doesn't last very long. 32 00:01:45,815 --> 00:01:47,192 Aging. 33 00:01:47,192 --> 00:01:52,322 Your body changes and everything changes. 34 00:01:53,865 --> 00:01:55,909 [breathing, murmuring to herself] 35 00:01:55,909 --> 00:01:57,118 [people murmuring] 36 00:01:57,118 --> 00:01:59,329 I just got into a furnace. No, I-- 37 00:01:59,329 --> 00:02:00,497 [man] Are you okay? 38 00:02:00,497 --> 00:02:03,375 No, I think I'm going through menopause, it's pre-early menopause. 39 00:02:03,375 --> 00:02:04,876 - Pre-menopause. - [man] You want a little bit of wind? 40 00:02:04,876 --> 00:02:07,295 - There's nothing you can do. - [woman] We'll give you some wind. 41 00:02:07,295 --> 00:02:10,006 It just happens. Shit, Lord. 42 00:02:10,006 --> 00:02:12,467 - [man laughs] - One minute, I'm fine. 43 00:02:12,467 --> 00:02:14,678 Next minute, just this furnace comes up. 44 00:02:14,678 --> 00:02:17,681 - I got some wind for you. - Why do men not get menopause? 45 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:22,394 [Naomi] There have been times when I've said, "Okay, I'm gonna slow down, 46 00:02:22,394 --> 00:02:24,854 I'm gonna pull out, I'm gonna go do other things." 47 00:02:24,854 --> 00:02:29,276 But... my energy is still the same. 48 00:02:32,862 --> 00:02:37,659 You hope that the way you are will sort of transcend your image. 49 00:02:40,579 --> 00:02:42,330 I don't like just being, like, "I'm a model." 50 00:02:42,330 --> 00:02:45,125 [laughs] "I'm a model, and that's all I am." 51 00:02:45,125 --> 00:02:47,460 [younger Christy] So I've been doing a lot less... everything. 52 00:02:47,460 --> 00:02:49,296 I just have a lot of interests in my life. 53 00:02:49,296 --> 00:02:52,757 It's not that I'm stopping. I'm just being a lot more selective. 54 00:02:54,801 --> 00:03:00,891 I just hope that when this is all over, that I take it well. 55 00:03:00,891 --> 00:03:03,810 I put my whole heart into it. 56 00:03:03,810 --> 00:03:05,395 Um... 57 00:03:07,063 --> 00:03:09,399 I know it's gonna come to an end one day. 58 00:03:11,359 --> 00:03:12,861 - [indistinct] - [laughs] 59 00:03:14,154 --> 00:03:18,408 [Linda] So many barriers have been taken down since I started modeling. 60 00:03:18,408 --> 00:03:22,621 And age was one of them. And... 61 00:03:24,414 --> 00:03:25,999 you see Cindy... 62 00:03:28,126 --> 00:03:29,753 and Christy... 63 00:03:31,338 --> 00:03:32,589 ...and Naomi. 64 00:03:32,589 --> 00:03:35,967 They're flourishing and they're beautiful, and... 65 00:03:35,967 --> 00:03:37,302 [breath shaking] 66 00:03:38,053 --> 00:03:40,388 ...they can work forever. 67 00:03:51,691 --> 00:03:53,568 [Linda] I didn't sleep last night. 68 00:03:56,738 --> 00:04:01,368 {\an8}It's okay, as long as... as long as I'm gonna live it's okay. 69 00:04:02,744 --> 00:04:06,289 I've just been dealt so many... blows... 70 00:04:07,874 --> 00:04:12,254 ...that I feel like this is just another one and I'll get over it, 'cause, 71 00:04:12,254 --> 00:04:15,131 what am I gonna do, I have to get over it. 72 00:04:16,882 --> 00:04:22,430 Being in the vain world that I was working in and living in, 73 00:04:22,430 --> 00:04:26,268 there were all these tools we were presented with. 74 00:04:26,768 --> 00:04:31,648 And, um, I used some of those tools. 75 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:33,900 [voice trembling] Because... 76 00:04:35,527 --> 00:04:38,446 ...I wanted to like what I saw in the mirror, 77 00:04:38,446 --> 00:04:42,409 and the commercial said I would like myself better. 78 00:04:44,869 --> 00:04:48,373 {\an8}But what happened to my body after CoolSculpting... 79 00:04:49,916 --> 00:04:51,626 {\an8}...became my nightmare. 80 00:04:54,045 --> 00:04:55,839 I can't like myself 81 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:01,803 with these hard masses and protrusions sticking out of my body. 82 00:05:01,803 --> 00:05:03,471 I-- I just can't. 83 00:05:04,014 --> 00:05:10,729 Had someone told me you're going to grow hard fat, that we can't remove, 84 00:05:10,729 --> 00:05:13,023 maybe, 85 00:05:13,023 --> 00:05:14,858 I would never have taken the risk. 86 00:05:17,819 --> 00:05:20,572 I wish we could just really see ourselves... 87 00:05:22,365 --> 00:05:23,825 ...in the mirror. 88 00:05:23,825 --> 00:05:25,785 Non-distorted. 89 00:05:28,455 --> 00:05:32,167 Without ever having seen ourselves 90 00:05:32,167 --> 00:05:36,254 with a filter or retouched. 91 00:05:39,132 --> 00:05:40,842 [voice trembling] That is what has thrown me 92 00:05:40,842 --> 00:05:43,470 into this deep depression that I'm in. 93 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,099 It's like a trap. You're trapped. 94 00:05:48,099 --> 00:05:51,019 With yourself, that you hate. 95 00:05:52,812 --> 00:05:55,982 It's been years since I worked. 96 00:05:56,775 --> 00:05:58,693 And years of hiding. 97 00:06:01,863 --> 00:06:04,616 I never went out the door unless it was maybe 98 00:06:04,616 --> 00:06:07,452 a doctor's appointment that I had to go to. 99 00:06:16,586 --> 00:06:18,338 [distant siren wailing] 100 00:06:20,131 --> 00:06:22,926 [Linda] Let's go get that poison shot in me. 101 00:06:24,678 --> 00:06:26,680 - [doctor] Tell us your name and birthday. - [machine beeping] 102 00:06:27,556 --> 00:06:30,100 Five, ten, '65. 103 00:06:30,100 --> 00:06:31,768 Linda Evangelista. 104 00:06:32,561 --> 00:06:34,938 That's a beautiful name. So... might as well go with it. 105 00:06:34,938 --> 00:06:36,273 Linda? 106 00:06:36,273 --> 00:06:39,109 - Evangelista, there's something... - Evangelista is beautiful. 107 00:06:39,109 --> 00:06:42,404 But Linda? I never liked that name. 108 00:06:43,738 --> 00:06:47,158 [doctor] So one hour on this, one hour on the Cytoxan 109 00:06:47,158 --> 00:06:50,662 and then one hour at night and 30 minutes on the... [indistinct] 110 00:06:50,662 --> 00:06:52,372 So, it's three and a half. 111 00:06:53,081 --> 00:06:54,791 [Linda] And I keep saying I'm not suffering. 112 00:06:55,417 --> 00:06:56,251 [doctor] Yeah. 113 00:06:56,251 --> 00:06:58,461 Just a little inconvenienced here. 114 00:07:00,505 --> 00:07:07,053 {\an8}I was approached to do this, and I will do anything that I can for breast cancer. 115 00:07:07,053 --> 00:07:09,931 And for me, this is not work, this is pleasure. 116 00:07:09,931 --> 00:07:14,978 And to do something for this cause that I'm very, very, um... 117 00:07:14,978 --> 00:07:19,274 [Linda voiceover] It's always been a charity dear to my heart. 118 00:07:20,692 --> 00:07:27,157 And ironic that I ended up with breast cancer myself. 119 00:07:29,242 --> 00:07:32,120 A little over three years ago, I was diagnosed. 120 00:07:32,954 --> 00:07:37,417 The decision was very easy to make 121 00:07:37,417 --> 00:07:39,836 to have a double mastectomy. 122 00:07:40,879 --> 00:07:43,465 But it came back. 123 00:07:45,425 --> 00:07:47,260 [Dr. Shapiro] So right now, 124 00:07:47,260 --> 00:07:51,681 the treatment seems to be going as planned, um... 125 00:07:51,681 --> 00:07:54,643 It's really good that you brought it to everyone's attention 126 00:07:54,643 --> 00:07:59,105 because it was a finding that I think would have been easily overlooked. 127 00:07:59,105 --> 00:08:02,025 {\an8}And you're very attuned to your body. 128 00:08:02,025 --> 00:08:04,778 {\an8}I mean, that's what you did to make your living. 129 00:08:04,778 --> 00:08:07,906 {\an8}And, you know, and so it all comes together 130 00:08:07,906 --> 00:08:10,242 that someone with your life experience 131 00:08:10,242 --> 00:08:13,411 would be attuned to something going on. 132 00:08:13,411 --> 00:08:17,290 I was pushing on it, because I thought maybe it was, um, 133 00:08:17,290 --> 00:08:21,127 because I'm told it was rib number four that I had sawn off 134 00:08:21,127 --> 00:08:22,712 from one of my lung surgeries. 135 00:08:22,712 --> 00:08:25,966 So I thought it was the... the nub that-- 136 00:08:25,966 --> 00:08:27,342 [Shapiro] I can see how you would think that. 137 00:08:27,342 --> 00:08:28,426 And in fact, that is... 138 00:08:28,426 --> 00:08:33,306 [Linda] I have a genetic mutation called Birt-Hogg-Dubé Syndrome, 139 00:08:33,306 --> 00:08:36,810 where I had developed little weak spots and air would escape 140 00:08:36,810 --> 00:08:39,354 and it would cause my lung to collapse. 141 00:08:41,147 --> 00:08:43,275 I don't know how many surgeries I've had. 142 00:08:43,275 --> 00:08:45,068 I've had so many. 143 00:08:45,860 --> 00:08:47,988 Scars for me are trophies. 144 00:08:47,988 --> 00:08:53,660 Like, I overcame something and I won. 145 00:08:54,536 --> 00:08:58,081 I battled something. And I survived. 146 00:08:58,081 --> 00:09:01,751 So, I could celebrate a scar. 147 00:09:02,460 --> 00:09:07,299 But to be disfigured, is not a trophy. 148 00:09:10,844 --> 00:09:13,638 I can't see how anybody would want to dress me. 149 00:09:13,638 --> 00:09:16,057 I just can't. I can't. 150 00:09:19,227 --> 00:09:21,938 {\an8}Now... to lose my job... 151 00:09:23,231 --> 00:09:25,567 {\an8}that I love so much and... [inhales] 152 00:09:26,902 --> 00:09:29,613 [crying] ...lose my livelihood. 153 00:09:31,823 --> 00:09:33,950 My heart is broken. 154 00:09:35,952 --> 00:09:37,913 I loved my job. 155 00:09:46,963 --> 00:09:49,633 [people murmuring, indistinct] 156 00:09:56,473 --> 00:09:58,516 - [man] This, um... - [woman] But this was more for Christy. 157 00:09:58,516 --> 00:10:01,937 [man] And that-- Yeah. She wants to wear some, like... 158 00:10:01,937 --> 00:10:03,730 - What's this one? Celine? - [man] That's Celine. 159 00:10:04,272 --> 00:10:08,068 Oh, my God. This is the total of Naomi's rings. Five million. 160 00:10:09,027 --> 00:10:11,154 I would show her. [chuckles] 161 00:10:11,154 --> 00:10:12,822 [blow dryer whirring] 162 00:10:12,822 --> 00:10:15,200 [Christy] I haven't really done that much over the years, 'cause I feel like-- 163 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,662 I used to feel guilty to do, like, trips for myself. 164 00:10:18,662 --> 00:10:21,164 - [Cindy] Yeah. - When I traveled a lot. 165 00:10:21,164 --> 00:10:22,958 - Right. - So now that my kids are like... 166 00:10:22,958 --> 00:10:24,542 - barely notice that I'm gone. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 167 00:10:24,542 --> 00:10:26,795 Actually, one of my other girlfriends, she would call home 168 00:10:26,795 --> 00:10:28,463 and her daughters are like, "Where are you?" 169 00:10:28,463 --> 00:10:31,925 - And she's like, "I'm out of the country." - And she's like, "You are?" 170 00:10:31,925 --> 00:10:33,927 - 'Cause at a certain point, they don't-- - "Didn't you make my breakfast?" 171 00:10:33,927 --> 00:10:36,221 Yeah, at a certain point they just don't even know. 172 00:10:36,888 --> 00:10:39,933 ...back in the UK. So, I'm trying to think. 173 00:10:40,725 --> 00:10:42,602 Thursday, Friday, I'm in the UK. 174 00:10:42,602 --> 00:10:45,230 Saturday, I'm in the UK, and Sunday I'm in the UK. 175 00:10:47,649 --> 00:10:50,068 Is that okay? Would that work? 176 00:10:50,068 --> 00:10:52,237 We all have so much history, and I think that's... 177 00:10:52,237 --> 00:10:54,447 that's the fun thing of getting everyone together. 178 00:10:54,447 --> 00:10:56,324 It's like a high school reunion. 179 00:10:56,324 --> 00:10:59,369 I work Thursday, Friday, and... 180 00:10:59,369 --> 00:11:02,372 Like, just, all of our lives have gotten so busy and complicated now too. 181 00:11:02,372 --> 00:11:04,708 To get everyone in the same city at the same... 182 00:11:04,708 --> 00:11:06,126 [make-up artist] Which is amazing. 183 00:11:06,126 --> 00:11:10,922 It's the first time we're all together in our 50s, our collective 50s. 184 00:11:12,465 --> 00:11:13,717 Um... 185 00:11:13,717 --> 00:11:15,760 We're all mothers now. 186 00:11:16,928 --> 00:11:18,388 Changed. 187 00:11:20,974 --> 00:11:22,893 [Christy] In 1996... 188 00:11:23,476 --> 00:11:27,480 I remember being in Paris for the couture and... 189 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,817 I-- I gained a little bit of weight because I'd quit smoking, 190 00:11:30,817 --> 00:11:35,405 and... I got released from a show. 191 00:11:35,405 --> 00:11:37,073 And I remember feeling like, 192 00:11:37,073 --> 00:11:39,826 "Well, I'm not gonna let this, like, make me feel bad." 193 00:11:39,826 --> 00:11:41,202 I just made a decision for myself, 194 00:11:41,202 --> 00:11:43,455 which is probably one of the best decisions I've made. 195 00:11:43,455 --> 00:11:46,041 "And so, you know, maybe now is the time. 196 00:11:46,041 --> 00:11:48,543 Like, you know, I don't really want to... 197 00:11:48,543 --> 00:11:50,503 I don't really want to subject myself to that anymore." 198 00:11:50,503 --> 00:11:52,589 I'm happy to read that you've gone back to school. 199 00:11:52,589 --> 00:11:53,590 - Yes. - Good for you. 200 00:11:53,590 --> 00:11:55,175 - Thank you. - Where did you leave off 201 00:11:55,175 --> 00:11:56,343 and where did you go back? 202 00:11:56,343 --> 00:11:58,720 Well, I was never able to go beyond high school 203 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,472 because I started working at a really young age. 204 00:12:00,472 --> 00:12:02,474 - Because you were a supermodel. - Exactly. 205 00:12:04,226 --> 00:12:06,645 [Christy] I loved my time at NYU. 206 00:12:06,645 --> 00:12:08,104 I just loved the routine of it. 207 00:12:08,104 --> 00:12:10,899 I loved, like, walking through the park to get to school. 208 00:12:10,899 --> 00:12:13,610 I loved having the excuse of like, 209 00:12:13,610 --> 00:12:16,947 "No, I'm studying this weekend." [laughs] "I'm not going anywhere." 210 00:12:16,947 --> 00:12:19,282 Um, really my concentration area 211 00:12:19,282 --> 00:12:21,910 was comparative religion and Eastern philosophy. 212 00:12:21,910 --> 00:12:25,372 But because it was liberal arts, I studied American literature, 213 00:12:25,372 --> 00:12:28,416 psychology, I studied architecture. 214 00:12:28,416 --> 00:12:32,712 Those were like, I think, some of the most important years of my life, 215 00:12:32,712 --> 00:12:35,757 um, because that's where I was really able to, like, 216 00:12:35,757 --> 00:12:39,427 make the investment in myself, and, like, who my future self was gonna be. 217 00:12:39,427 --> 00:12:44,808 And I just found so much inspiration to do so many other things. 218 00:12:45,642 --> 00:12:46,601 [faint cheering, applause] 219 00:12:46,601 --> 00:12:50,564 So, yeah, it was such a incredible four years. 220 00:12:52,107 --> 00:12:54,442 With the exception of my dad not being well in the middle of it. 221 00:12:57,612 --> 00:13:00,699 My dad was diagnosed with lung cancer at 63. 222 00:13:01,866 --> 00:13:04,869 His diagnosis was like, you know, six months, stage four. 223 00:13:06,037 --> 00:13:08,915 And we pretty much lost him six months to the day. 224 00:13:10,208 --> 00:13:13,837 After I lost my dad, I started to think, you know, 225 00:13:13,837 --> 00:13:16,464 could I be... could I be helpful in some way? 226 00:13:17,340 --> 00:13:21,344 In my life, there are two people in my family who have quit smoking: 227 00:13:21,344 --> 00:13:23,096 me and my dad. 228 00:13:23,096 --> 00:13:25,724 [Christy] I sort of saw the power of telling my story 229 00:13:25,724 --> 00:13:28,977 and telling my dad's story and helping other people 230 00:13:28,977 --> 00:13:32,355 to hopefully have a different kind of story for themselves. 231 00:13:32,355 --> 00:13:36,651 Um, and then I did a lot of advocating in DC 232 00:13:36,651 --> 00:13:39,154 {\an8}and, you know, just do what I could. 233 00:13:39,154 --> 00:13:42,365 {\an8}I just wanted to briefly add that I'll do everything in my power, 234 00:13:42,365 --> 00:13:44,951 {\an8}um, as a representative of the fashion community 235 00:13:44,951 --> 00:13:47,495 {\an8}to, um, take responsibility in my actions 236 00:13:47,495 --> 00:13:50,498 {\an8}and to set the best possible example for those I may influence. 237 00:13:51,333 --> 00:13:53,335 {\an8}There are a lot of people in my industry that smoke 238 00:13:53,335 --> 00:13:57,756 {\an8}and that are photographed smoking and looking very glamorous in doing so... 239 00:13:57,756 --> 00:14:01,968 My effort is to demystify those glamorous images 240 00:14:01,968 --> 00:14:04,304 that have been so prevalent for so many years. 241 00:14:04,304 --> 00:14:05,639 {\an8}Thank you. 242 00:14:06,264 --> 00:14:12,103 In that time, we had the first "Women and Tobacco" report created. 243 00:14:12,103 --> 00:14:13,605 I was like, "What?" [laughs] 244 00:14:13,605 --> 00:14:16,107 "There's not already a report about women's health and tobacco?" 245 00:14:16,107 --> 00:14:20,820 Um, and that kind of pissed me off and also, I think, opened the door 246 00:14:20,820 --> 00:14:23,740 for the kind of work that I do now with maternal health 247 00:14:23,740 --> 00:14:26,868 and, you know, do more. 248 00:14:26,868 --> 00:14:29,788 Do more than I ever imagined I would do. 249 00:14:31,164 --> 00:14:33,708 I got married in 2003. 250 00:14:34,668 --> 00:14:37,963 When we were pregnant, uh, we were super excited. 251 00:14:39,881 --> 00:14:42,300 I had had such a full life before becoming pregnant 252 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:44,970 that I really felt, like, so ready 253 00:14:44,970 --> 00:14:47,556 for this next adventure and phase of my life. 254 00:14:48,515 --> 00:14:50,475 But after I delivered... 255 00:14:53,228 --> 00:14:54,145 ...I hemorrhaged. 256 00:14:56,773 --> 00:15:00,360 It became, um, a complication that had to be managed. 257 00:15:02,153 --> 00:15:05,240 Which was painful, and I lost a lot of blood. 258 00:15:06,283 --> 00:15:08,785 But my child was born, she was healthy. 259 00:15:08,785 --> 00:15:12,706 I felt like I was being cared for by the right people 260 00:15:12,706 --> 00:15:15,875 and people that I trusted, so, you know, relatively speaking, 261 00:15:15,875 --> 00:15:19,921 I felt, um, as good as I could in this situation. 262 00:15:21,131 --> 00:15:23,758 But after that, I... you know, 263 00:15:23,758 --> 00:15:25,594 I wanted to do something about it. 264 00:15:25,594 --> 00:15:27,679 I felt like, you know, why, you know... 265 00:15:27,679 --> 00:15:30,557 I was so informed and had so many resources. 266 00:15:30,557 --> 00:15:32,976 Why didn't-- why did I not know this was possible? 267 00:15:32,976 --> 00:15:36,271 And why did I not know that, like, so many women die 268 00:15:36,271 --> 00:15:38,523 from similar complications around the world. 269 00:15:38,523 --> 00:15:41,276 And I just sort of dove in and started this organization 270 00:15:41,276 --> 00:15:42,986 called Every Mother Counts. 271 00:15:42,986 --> 00:15:44,321 - Do you want to try? - [woman] Yes. 272 00:15:44,321 --> 00:15:46,448 - [heartbeat pulsing] - [Christy laughs] 273 00:15:46,448 --> 00:15:49,075 - It's a healthy girl! - [laughter] 274 00:15:49,576 --> 00:15:52,787 [Christy] As a woman, just because of our reproductive systems, 275 00:15:52,787 --> 00:15:55,373 we're more susceptible to a lot of different things, 276 00:15:55,373 --> 00:15:56,917 but we're not studied as much. 277 00:15:56,917 --> 00:16:00,670 And there's way, way less money invested in women's health, 278 00:16:00,670 --> 00:16:03,340 um, in terms of research and studies. 279 00:16:03,340 --> 00:16:07,469 {\an8}And so I just try to use my voice and become a better advocate for people. 280 00:16:08,345 --> 00:16:11,806 {\an8}Every time I've come, it's grown, uh, exponentially. 281 00:16:11,806 --> 00:16:13,892 This building didn't exist two years ago. 282 00:16:14,351 --> 00:16:17,020 This, for anyone's standards, is incredible. 283 00:16:17,020 --> 00:16:19,981 I would prefer to give birth here than where I gave birth. 284 00:16:20,941 --> 00:16:24,444 My daughter loves Every Mother Counts because she's like, 285 00:16:24,444 --> 00:16:26,488 "I'm the reason that you do this. 286 00:16:26,488 --> 00:16:28,782 I'm the reason that this work even exists." 287 00:16:29,741 --> 00:16:33,870 She knows that she really changed the course of my life 288 00:16:33,870 --> 00:16:36,539 {\an8}in more ways than just the obvious. 289 00:16:38,583 --> 00:16:40,460 [blow dryer whirring] 290 00:16:41,795 --> 00:16:44,381 'Cause I have not seen you all together for a while. 291 00:16:44,381 --> 00:16:47,008 Yeah. Last time we did a thing with, um... 292 00:16:47,008 --> 00:16:49,219 - But not with Cindy, right? No, no... - Not with Cindy. 293 00:16:49,219 --> 00:16:51,429 But I see her, actually, probably the most. 294 00:16:51,429 --> 00:16:52,764 - Oh, really? - Yeah. 295 00:16:52,764 --> 00:16:54,766 Because, well, whenever she comes to New York 296 00:16:54,766 --> 00:16:56,226 we go out for dinner or whatever. 297 00:16:56,226 --> 00:16:58,144 - More socially... - Ah, yeah. 298 00:17:01,606 --> 00:17:03,483 It's magic fabric, isn't it? 299 00:17:03,483 --> 00:17:06,486 [woman] It's perfect, look. And the shining is perfect. 300 00:17:06,486 --> 00:17:08,112 It's go time. 301 00:17:08,112 --> 00:17:10,031 [man] Is this from 1986? 302 00:17:10,031 --> 00:17:11,824 [Naomi] This one's vintage or this one's Peter's? 303 00:17:11,824 --> 00:17:13,910 - No, this one is vintage. - [Naomi] Ah, vintage. 304 00:17:13,910 --> 00:17:15,286 How much is that? 305 00:17:15,286 --> 00:17:18,164 [man] Um, twenty-four thousand dollars. 306 00:17:18,164 --> 00:17:20,333 - This dress? - [man] Yeah. That's why-- 307 00:17:20,333 --> 00:17:23,628 That's what they're charging now for Papa's vintage? 308 00:17:28,091 --> 00:17:29,509 [Naomi] Azzedine was my papa. 309 00:17:32,512 --> 00:17:35,640 With him, I learnt about chosen families. 310 00:17:38,602 --> 00:17:40,103 The same for Gianni Versace. 311 00:17:41,479 --> 00:17:46,359 He was very sensitive to feeling me, like, he pushed me. 312 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,154 He would push me, push me, push me 313 00:17:49,154 --> 00:17:52,073 to step outside and go further 314 00:17:52,073 --> 00:17:54,993 when I didn't think I had it within myself to do it. 315 00:17:56,494 --> 00:17:59,331 So, when he died... 316 00:18:00,957 --> 00:18:04,544 ...my grief became very bad. 317 00:18:05,754 --> 00:18:11,635 Grief has been a very strange thing in my life because it doesn't always... 318 00:18:12,260 --> 00:18:17,140 I go into a shock and freak out when it actually happens, 319 00:18:17,766 --> 00:18:20,560 and then later is when I break. 320 00:18:23,104 --> 00:18:26,483 But I kept the sadness inside. I just dealt with it. 321 00:18:28,235 --> 00:18:30,904 So, I guess when I started using... 322 00:18:32,572 --> 00:18:35,575 ...that was one of the things I tried to cover up, was grief. 323 00:18:38,203 --> 00:18:40,038 Addiction is such... 324 00:18:40,830 --> 00:18:42,540 [sighs] It's such a... 325 00:18:44,459 --> 00:18:45,502 [clicks teeth] 326 00:18:46,127 --> 00:18:48,129 It's just a bullshit thing. It really is. 327 00:18:49,464 --> 00:18:52,968 You think, "Oh, it's gonna heal that wound." 328 00:18:53,718 --> 00:18:55,262 It doesn't. 329 00:18:55,262 --> 00:18:58,223 It can cause such huge fear and anxiety. 330 00:18:58,932 --> 00:19:01,393 So, I got really angry. 331 00:19:02,352 --> 00:19:05,313 There's a lot of issues that I have from childhood. 332 00:19:05,313 --> 00:19:06,648 Tell me about those. 333 00:19:06,648 --> 00:19:09,734 Well, for instance, not knowing-- not knowing your father, 334 00:19:09,734 --> 00:19:11,319 not seeing your mother. 335 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:12,654 That brings up a lot of... 336 00:19:12,654 --> 00:19:15,240 It manif-- manifests a lot of feelings. 337 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,533 - One of those feelings... - [Barbara Walters] Anger? 338 00:19:16,533 --> 00:19:19,619 Absolutely anger. But I think that's a really normal thing. 339 00:19:19,619 --> 00:19:24,499 And I mean, I've not always displayed my anger 340 00:19:24,499 --> 00:19:26,793 in the appropriate, uh, time. 341 00:19:26,793 --> 00:19:28,670 It's always been an unappropriate time. 342 00:19:29,296 --> 00:19:33,300 But, um, it's a manifestation of a deeper issue, I think, anger. 343 00:19:33,300 --> 00:19:36,595 And that, for me, I think is based on insecurity, 344 00:19:36,595 --> 00:19:40,307 self-esteem and loneliness and, um... 345 00:19:40,307 --> 00:19:41,433 Being abandoned? 346 00:19:41,433 --> 00:19:44,102 Being abandoned. That's what I mean. That's what my core issues are, 347 00:19:44,102 --> 00:19:47,439 abandonment and rejection and, um... 348 00:19:48,356 --> 00:19:50,901 and that puts me in a real vulnerable space. 349 00:19:51,443 --> 00:19:54,321 And everyone thinks, "Oh, Naomi's a really tough girl and really strong." 350 00:19:54,321 --> 00:19:58,116 But that's what I want to appear to people to be like, 351 00:19:58,116 --> 00:20:00,368 because I fear that if I don't, 352 00:20:00,368 --> 00:20:03,622 they're gonna just walk all over me if they really knew. 353 00:20:03,622 --> 00:20:07,000 When you try to cover something up, your feelings... 354 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,337 You spoke about abandonment. I tried to cover that with something. 355 00:20:11,254 --> 00:20:12,505 You can't cover it. 356 00:20:13,673 --> 00:20:15,675 I was killing myself. 357 00:20:17,177 --> 00:20:18,345 {\an8}It was very hurtful. 358 00:20:19,721 --> 00:20:21,890 For my mistakes, I've always owned up to them. 359 00:20:23,391 --> 00:20:25,936 I chose to go to rehab. 360 00:20:25,936 --> 00:20:30,065 It was one of the best and only things I could have done for myself at that time. 361 00:20:31,274 --> 00:20:36,112 It is scary to pick up the mirror and look into the mirror. 362 00:20:36,112 --> 00:20:37,656 It is scary. 363 00:20:38,198 --> 00:20:41,952 And it's taken me many years to work on and deal with. 364 00:20:41,952 --> 00:20:45,247 And it does still come up sometimes. 365 00:20:45,247 --> 00:20:50,043 But I just now have the tools how to deal with it now when it comes up. 366 00:20:50,043 --> 00:20:53,046 And I have to think of something outside of myself. 367 00:20:54,798 --> 00:20:57,133 Something greater than myself. 368 00:20:59,344 --> 00:21:03,848 If I have people in my life that I love and I see that they need help, 369 00:21:03,848 --> 00:21:05,267 of course I'm going to offer my help. 370 00:21:05,267 --> 00:21:08,061 I'm there. I'm very loyal to the people that I love. 371 00:21:09,646 --> 00:21:12,482 [Marc Jacobs] There was a time where I was partying, 372 00:21:12,482 --> 00:21:14,359 um, maybe five or six years ago, 373 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,404 and Naomi would be ringing my phone and I would see on the screen, "Naomi." 374 00:21:17,404 --> 00:21:21,366 I was like, "I don't know how she knows that I'm up to no good, but she does." 375 00:21:23,285 --> 00:21:26,663 [John Galliano] She brought me joy, huge joy, 376 00:21:26,663 --> 00:21:28,832 {\an8}when I was in a place that was so dark. 377 00:21:31,084 --> 00:21:35,380 Naomi did arrange for me to go to rehab in Arizona. 378 00:21:36,464 --> 00:21:38,216 I mean, she's super in every way. 379 00:21:38,216 --> 00:21:40,760 So, it's good that I tell this story because apart from work, 380 00:21:41,469 --> 00:21:42,929 she's human too. 381 00:21:44,973 --> 00:21:47,893 [Jacobs] Naomi is an extraordinary person, 382 00:21:47,893 --> 00:21:49,561 who's super caring and loving, 383 00:21:50,562 --> 00:21:53,189 especially to the next generation. 384 00:21:54,816 --> 00:21:57,611 Which is... as personal... 385 00:21:57,611 --> 00:22:03,241 and as, like, you know, disconnected from fashion as you can get. 386 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,830 Naomi is probably one of the hardest working people in the industry, 387 00:22:08,830 --> 00:22:10,540 'cause she's doing other work as well. 388 00:22:10,957 --> 00:22:13,668 When I started Fashion For Relief, it was just an idea. 389 00:22:14,294 --> 00:22:17,339 {\an8}[Fabien Baron] She's working on many, many humanitarian causes 390 00:22:17,339 --> 00:22:20,508 that are really, very, very beautiful, 391 00:22:20,508 --> 00:22:24,012 and I think it's amazing that she's that today. 392 00:22:24,012 --> 00:22:28,099 Fashion For Relief only works because we all collaborate and come together. 393 00:22:28,099 --> 00:22:32,520 Naomi always wanted to bring people with her, and now, 394 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,941 she has become... a stateswoman. 395 00:22:38,068 --> 00:22:41,488 [Naomi] I just feel like I stuck to my integrity. 396 00:22:41,488 --> 00:22:45,492 I'm coming from a place of authenticity, I think, because it's not just now. 397 00:22:46,868 --> 00:22:50,997 That began for me in 1993, 398 00:22:50,997 --> 00:22:54,542 when I went to South Africa with Nelson Mandela. 399 00:22:54,542 --> 00:22:56,253 [Mandela speaking indistinctly] 400 00:22:56,253 --> 00:22:58,838 Thank you. [laughs] 401 00:22:58,838 --> 00:23:00,382 {\an8}So, can I call you grandfather? 402 00:23:00,382 --> 00:23:04,261 {\an8}Absolutely. I told you that I've adopted you as my granddaughter. 403 00:23:04,261 --> 00:23:06,555 [both laughing] 404 00:23:08,181 --> 00:23:10,559 [Naomi] President Mandela made me his honorable granddaughter 405 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:13,270 and made me part of the Nelson Mandela Children's Fund. 406 00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:17,107 [all singing] 407 00:23:18,858 --> 00:23:20,485 {\an8}[Naomi] I didn't really have any understanding. 408 00:23:20,485 --> 00:23:22,946 {\an8}I had no knowledge of what the word philanthropy meant. 409 00:23:22,946 --> 00:23:24,364 {\an8}[indistinct chatter] 410 00:23:24,364 --> 00:23:26,783 I got to this hospital, I remember. 411 00:23:26,783 --> 00:23:28,994 The children are all dying, pretty much, from leukemia 412 00:23:28,994 --> 00:23:30,954 or some sort of blood disorder. 413 00:23:30,954 --> 00:23:33,582 They had made cakes and singing. 414 00:23:33,582 --> 00:23:36,710 [all singing] 415 00:23:37,752 --> 00:23:39,212 And I just burst out crying. 416 00:23:39,212 --> 00:23:42,716 [scattered clapping, chatter] 417 00:23:42,716 --> 00:23:44,843 I had to learn as I went along. 418 00:23:45,635 --> 00:23:47,387 [clapping fades] 419 00:23:48,388 --> 00:23:49,931 Bye! 420 00:23:49,931 --> 00:23:52,225 [Naomi] I started to like what I was doing. 421 00:23:53,226 --> 00:23:55,604 Especially because I was doing it for Grandad. 422 00:23:56,563 --> 00:23:58,481 Well, he taught me so much. 423 00:23:58,481 --> 00:24:04,195 He taught me just not to be afraid to use my voice and help others. 424 00:24:05,030 --> 00:24:10,619 It's a great honor to have such an outstanding model. 425 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,121 She is one of that generation... 426 00:24:13,872 --> 00:24:17,918 ...that has chosen the world as the theater of her operation. 427 00:24:17,918 --> 00:24:20,212 I really love you. Thank you. 428 00:24:20,212 --> 00:24:23,215 [applause, cheering] 429 00:24:26,051 --> 00:24:28,845 [Naomi] Once I understood what I was able to do, 430 00:24:30,430 --> 00:24:32,474 it was just one focus. 431 00:24:32,474 --> 00:24:36,353 ["Best of My Love" by The Emotions playing on stereo] 432 00:24:36,353 --> 00:24:38,438 [Naomi] What an incredible view. 433 00:24:39,397 --> 00:24:41,566 Look at that. Look at Africa. 434 00:24:42,817 --> 00:24:45,153 Look how beautiful. 435 00:24:45,153 --> 00:24:46,988 This is heaven. 436 00:24:46,988 --> 00:24:49,366 It's like, it's the Indian Ocean. 437 00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:52,202 Look how stunning. 438 00:24:55,163 --> 00:24:56,539 Look at me. 439 00:24:57,249 --> 00:25:00,961 [Naomi] People in Africa and the Middle East and India... 440 00:25:02,295 --> 00:25:05,465 I just feel badly that... 441 00:25:05,465 --> 00:25:08,385 I, too, with my industry, just ignored them. 442 00:25:08,385 --> 00:25:11,012 And dis-- I guess you call it discrimination. 443 00:25:11,012 --> 00:25:12,681 We just did not let them in. 444 00:25:13,723 --> 00:25:17,727 I was a part of that, too. And I don't... I feel ashamed for that. 445 00:25:19,563 --> 00:25:21,147 [photographer] Absolutely stunning. 446 00:25:21,147 --> 00:25:24,025 [Naomi] So, when I work now, 447 00:25:24,025 --> 00:25:26,278 I feel like I'm not working for me. 448 00:25:26,278 --> 00:25:29,030 I feel like I am working for the culture. 449 00:25:29,698 --> 00:25:31,700 [shutter firing rapidly] 450 00:25:32,117 --> 00:25:33,743 [man] Wow. I love this. 451 00:25:34,869 --> 00:25:38,832 Where I am in my life right now is really focusing on those emerging markets 452 00:25:38,832 --> 00:25:41,167 that our industry has ignored, 453 00:25:41,167 --> 00:25:46,006 that didn't let them in to our fashion shows, our fashion weeks. 454 00:25:46,548 --> 00:25:48,592 J'adore, j'adore, j'adore! 455 00:25:48,592 --> 00:25:50,218 [both laughing] 456 00:25:50,218 --> 00:25:54,014 Those are the countries now that I want to help have the same. 457 00:25:54,014 --> 00:25:57,100 Why not? They have talent there too. 458 00:25:57,726 --> 00:26:01,938 [Naomi on PA] Arise Fashion Week has strived to showcase African fashion, 459 00:26:01,938 --> 00:26:05,567 African designers and African style, 460 00:26:05,567 --> 00:26:07,652 bringing them to the global stage, 461 00:26:07,652 --> 00:26:11,406 shining a bright light on their creativity and excellence. 462 00:26:11,406 --> 00:26:15,035 They are the future and the time is now. 463 00:26:15,035 --> 00:26:16,119 [applause] 464 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,914 [Tinie Tempah] Though we've always had the best creativity in Nigeria, 465 00:26:18,914 --> 00:26:20,832 I didn't really feel like this was a place 466 00:26:20,832 --> 00:26:25,420 {\an8}where that creativity would be embraced and celebrated in this modern times. 467 00:26:26,087 --> 00:26:28,506 [Naomi] I want to use who I am 468 00:26:28,506 --> 00:26:31,968 to change and to help young creatives 469 00:26:31,968 --> 00:26:36,056 be where they should be and try to make up for lost time. 470 00:26:37,349 --> 00:26:41,019 This is where I think I want to leave my legacy. 471 00:26:42,562 --> 00:26:46,399 I stayed in Nigeria from December 4th, 2020, 472 00:26:46,399 --> 00:26:49,569 till March 5th, '21. So I stayed there all that time. 473 00:26:49,569 --> 00:26:52,864 'Cause I didn't see any point of going any-- I don't-- 474 00:26:52,864 --> 00:26:55,742 I just went to Kenya, Ghana, Nigeria. 475 00:26:55,742 --> 00:26:58,036 I stayed there the whole-- the whole time on the continent. 476 00:26:58,036 --> 00:27:00,247 And then I came back here. 477 00:27:00,247 --> 00:27:02,666 So that I hadn't been back since then, so it had been a minute. 478 00:27:02,666 --> 00:27:03,959 - [man] Wow. - Yeah. 479 00:27:03,959 --> 00:27:06,795 I planned to take my daughter on this one, but I didn't work out. 480 00:27:06,795 --> 00:27:08,338 - So, next time. - She's still young though... 481 00:27:08,338 --> 00:27:09,965 - But I took her to Senegal. - Malaria and stuff... 482 00:27:09,965 --> 00:27:12,801 My daughter, she's the love of my life, 483 00:27:12,801 --> 00:27:15,303 she is everything to me, 484 00:27:15,303 --> 00:27:20,600 and it's the best thing I've ever done in my whole life, is having my daughter. 485 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,020 [indistinct chatter] 486 00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:27,524 [man] Cindy, how many hours have you been in hair and make-up your whole life? 487 00:27:27,524 --> 00:27:29,150 [laughter] 488 00:27:29,150 --> 00:27:33,113 I used to say if I had a-- like, a nickel for every... 489 00:27:33,113 --> 00:27:36,533 for every hour I was in hair and makeup, and then I was like, "Oh wait, I do." 490 00:27:36,533 --> 00:27:37,617 [laughing] 491 00:27:39,536 --> 00:27:41,121 - A certain benchmark, things that... - Yes. 492 00:27:41,121 --> 00:27:42,414 - ...you know, are always there. - Yeah, it's funny. 493 00:27:42,414 --> 00:27:45,041 Mine, mostly, weren't really in fashion. 494 00:27:45,041 --> 00:27:47,419 - Right. - Mine were fashion adjacent. 495 00:27:47,419 --> 00:27:49,671 But you were, sort of, branding before branding was kind of... 496 00:27:49,671 --> 00:27:51,339 - Yeah. - ...a thing, right? In a way. 497 00:27:51,339 --> 00:27:52,757 [Cindy] I didn't really know to call it that, but yeah. 498 00:27:52,757 --> 00:27:55,510 No, it wouldn't be called that yet, no because, God... 499 00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:58,138 [Cindy] It was just like doing your own stuff, and... 500 00:27:58,138 --> 00:28:00,473 - 'Cause I did my exercise video. - Yeah, yeah. 501 00:28:00,473 --> 00:28:02,225 I did a calendar. 502 00:28:03,143 --> 00:28:06,104 I did a little make-up book, actually. 503 00:28:06,104 --> 00:28:07,772 Um, yeah, so... 504 00:28:07,772 --> 00:28:09,566 But people always said about you, didn't they? 505 00:28:09,566 --> 00:28:12,444 Like Cindy's-- you know, she's a businesswoman. She's got it. 506 00:28:12,444 --> 00:28:14,946 Like, you know. And now it'd be like, "Oh, she's a brand." 507 00:28:14,946 --> 00:28:17,407 [Cindy] I don't normally refer to myself in the third person, 508 00:28:17,407 --> 00:28:22,162 but I'm a human being and my job is, like, being Cindy Crawford. 509 00:28:22,913 --> 00:28:25,749 {\an8}I've let my career 510 00:28:25,749 --> 00:28:29,169 reflect what I'm going through in my life. 511 00:28:29,169 --> 00:28:32,881 It's like, I'm not trying to be 55, 512 00:28:32,881 --> 00:28:36,301 doing the same things I was when I was 25. 513 00:28:36,301 --> 00:28:39,095 Back then I did Sports Illustrated, 514 00:28:39,095 --> 00:28:41,556 which was not a good experience for me and... 515 00:28:42,724 --> 00:28:44,935 ...because I had an opinion [laughs] 516 00:28:44,935 --> 00:28:46,686 and that was not well received. 517 00:28:46,686 --> 00:28:49,898 So, then I was like, "You know what? I'm going to do my own swimsuit calendar." 518 00:28:50,649 --> 00:28:53,985 Like, that was, like, my first foray into doing my own thing. 519 00:28:53,985 --> 00:28:56,112 {\an8}[applause, cheering] 520 00:28:56,112 --> 00:28:59,407 {\an8}And it was successful and I raised money for my charity, and it was great. 521 00:29:00,951 --> 00:29:04,037 So then that emboldened me to do other things. 522 00:29:04,037 --> 00:29:05,622 I'm like, "Okay, I've done that, now what?" 523 00:29:05,622 --> 00:29:06,915 {\an8}[overlapping chatter] 524 00:29:06,915 --> 00:29:10,335 When I was 35 and my Revlon contract was up, 525 00:29:11,002 --> 00:29:13,922 it was kind of like, "If I'm going to do my own thing, 526 00:29:13,922 --> 00:29:15,966 this feels like the right time." 527 00:29:15,966 --> 00:29:20,428 And I did not go forward with re-signing with Revlon. 528 00:29:20,428 --> 00:29:24,599 {\an8}I decided to do my own skincare line, 529 00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:26,476 {\an8}and Meaningful Beauty was born. 530 00:29:27,561 --> 00:29:29,437 {\an8}Instead of taking money up front, 531 00:29:29,437 --> 00:29:30,939 which is kind of what models do, 532 00:29:30,939 --> 00:29:33,191 it was like, I'm a partner, a full partner, 533 00:29:33,191 --> 00:29:37,779 I have equity, I'm building a business. I sit on the board. 534 00:29:37,779 --> 00:29:43,201 And then I also was asked to do a furniture line 535 00:29:43,201 --> 00:29:47,247 because, you know, style is style, including how you live. 536 00:29:48,123 --> 00:29:50,792 So, I started Cindy Crawford Home 15 years ago, 537 00:29:50,792 --> 00:29:55,297 and I really like it because it's not so dependent on me 538 00:29:55,297 --> 00:29:57,799 not having a wrinkle or not getting old. 539 00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:02,888 It's just about me creating a sanctuary in my home for myself and my family. 540 00:30:02,888 --> 00:30:04,556 And that's kind of timeless. 541 00:30:06,641 --> 00:30:09,603 I always knew I wanted a family, 542 00:30:09,603 --> 00:30:11,771 so I feel very blessed that... 543 00:30:12,689 --> 00:30:15,817 {\an8}...Rande and I have been married 23 years. 544 00:30:16,735 --> 00:30:21,823 {\an8}And have very similar ideas about parenting and how to live our life. 545 00:30:24,784 --> 00:30:28,038 Our kids, when they were little, 546 00:30:28,038 --> 00:30:30,123 it was really hard to explain to them, like, 547 00:30:30,123 --> 00:30:32,709 what Mommy's work is, like, "What is a model?" 548 00:30:32,709 --> 00:30:35,378 And "Why are those people taking your picture?" 549 00:30:35,378 --> 00:30:36,922 "What is fame?" 550 00:30:38,089 --> 00:30:41,092 I just remember coming home when they were little, 551 00:30:41,092 --> 00:30:44,721 and especially my son would be like... [sharp inhale] "Wash your face." 552 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:48,808 They wanted, you know, Cindy. 553 00:30:48,808 --> 00:30:51,853 And no make-up... [chuckles] ...hair pulled back and, um, 554 00:30:51,853 --> 00:30:54,481 you know, sitting on the floor playing Play-Doh or cooking dinner, 555 00:30:54,481 --> 00:30:58,068 whatever their version of Mom they needed in that moment was. 556 00:30:58,902 --> 00:31:02,197 Obviously, kids become your main focus of life, 557 00:31:02,197 --> 00:31:07,702 and then you work in the other things you are passionate about or want to do. 558 00:31:09,204 --> 00:31:13,875 Ever since I started my career and was able to actually help raise awareness, 559 00:31:13,875 --> 00:31:16,753 help raise money, meeting with families, 560 00:31:16,753 --> 00:31:21,132 meeting with patients, doing whatever I can. 561 00:31:21,132 --> 00:31:26,846 The type of leukemia that my brother was diagnosed with was a death sentence. 562 00:31:26,846 --> 00:31:31,101 And it's not anymore and these kids are going on to have their own children. 563 00:31:32,185 --> 00:31:36,106 My children, now that they're getting older... 564 00:31:36,106 --> 00:31:37,649 It's been interesting 565 00:31:37,649 --> 00:31:42,696 having Kaia and Presley both, kind of, dip their toes into the fashion world. 566 00:31:42,696 --> 00:31:45,156 I can help guide them right now 567 00:31:45,156 --> 00:31:47,534 and give them a little exposure to see if they really like it 568 00:31:47,534 --> 00:31:49,703 or they just think they like it. 569 00:31:49,703 --> 00:31:54,666 [Jacobs] I met Kaia... Cindy brought her to the-- to the studio we were shooting at 570 00:31:54,666 --> 00:31:57,210 and Cindy said, like, "Okay, I'm gonna leave Kaia, 571 00:31:57,210 --> 00:31:59,421 I'm not gonna be a stage mother and try to--" 572 00:31:59,421 --> 00:32:02,799 But, you know, you could see she was proud and excited for Kaia. 573 00:32:03,466 --> 00:32:06,011 {\an8}And Kaia was the ultimate professional. 574 00:32:06,887 --> 00:32:08,179 [Kaia] There wasn't much going through my mind. 575 00:32:08,179 --> 00:32:09,973 I think once the music starts and they're like, "Go!" 576 00:32:09,973 --> 00:32:12,475 you kind of just lose everything and it's like an instinct. 577 00:32:12,475 --> 00:32:14,227 [woman] And I heard you were proud, watching on. 578 00:32:14,227 --> 00:32:15,478 Oh, yeah, it was incredible. 579 00:32:15,478 --> 00:32:17,272 She came to my first show, so I had to come to hers. 580 00:32:17,272 --> 00:32:18,690 It was so fun. 581 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,153 {\an8}[Cindy] When Kaia started modeling, people would say, 582 00:32:23,153 --> 00:32:25,447 "You're gonna let her model?" I'm like, 583 00:32:25,447 --> 00:32:29,326 "If you have a daughter over the age of eight, she is modeling," 584 00:32:29,326 --> 00:32:33,163 because modeling is now accessible to anyone. 585 00:32:37,208 --> 00:32:40,337 {\an8}Social media was the great equalizer. 586 00:32:40,337 --> 00:32:43,048 Everybody can do it. Everybody can show whatever they want. 587 00:32:43,048 --> 00:32:46,593 And it's changed the balance of the hierarchy. 588 00:32:47,719 --> 00:32:49,721 Back then, you needed, sort of, the photographers, 589 00:32:49,721 --> 00:32:52,641 the editors, the designers. 590 00:32:52,641 --> 00:32:55,810 To be a model now, they are their own brands. 591 00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:59,272 They get booked directly through Instagram. 592 00:32:59,272 --> 00:33:00,482 That didn't exist before. 593 00:33:01,316 --> 00:33:05,862 So the supermodel now has to have a big social media presence 594 00:33:05,862 --> 00:33:09,491 to be able to reach the heights of what the girls did back in the day. 595 00:33:10,283 --> 00:33:13,245 I realized things were changing when clients are asking your agent, 596 00:33:13,245 --> 00:33:15,956 {\an8}"Well, how many Instagram followers does she have?" 597 00:33:15,956 --> 00:33:20,001 Before, like, the magazines could kind of dictate, 598 00:33:20,001 --> 00:33:23,296 "This is what is fashion." 599 00:33:23,755 --> 00:33:25,757 But when social media happened, 600 00:33:25,757 --> 00:33:30,762 there's such an explosion of images that we see. 601 00:33:30,762 --> 00:33:34,224 A lot of them are very different than we were used to seeing in magazines. 602 00:33:35,016 --> 00:33:37,352 [Robin Givhan] Right now, there's greater diversity 603 00:33:37,352 --> 00:33:39,604 in a lot of different categories. 604 00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:42,649 They can speak up and be heard 605 00:33:42,649 --> 00:33:45,151 and their voices can really be amplified in a way 606 00:33:45,151 --> 00:33:48,113 {\an8}that wasn't available to previous generations. 607 00:33:48,113 --> 00:33:51,283 The question is, will it endure? 608 00:33:52,617 --> 00:33:54,911 [Cindy] Maybe the idea of what a model is 609 00:33:54,911 --> 00:33:58,206 {\an8}and represents now has picked up steam, 610 00:33:58,206 --> 00:34:01,084 {\an8}and maybe that's a great thing. 611 00:34:01,084 --> 00:34:03,545 You can find... You can find anything, you know, 612 00:34:03,545 --> 00:34:07,257 and there's all these different ideas of beauty now. 613 00:34:07,257 --> 00:34:11,052 And all of a sudden, that is creating its own stars, 614 00:34:11,052 --> 00:34:14,597 its own momentum, its own energy and its own ideas. 615 00:34:15,807 --> 00:34:20,729 There's some feeling that maybe we helped the train leave the station. 616 00:34:21,938 --> 00:34:24,316 And, I mean, now I'm just Kaia's mom, by the way. 617 00:34:24,316 --> 00:34:27,027 You know, my Instagram should probably just be "Kaia's mom," 618 00:34:27,027 --> 00:34:28,278 and I'd probably have more followers. 619 00:34:28,278 --> 00:34:31,823 - [blow dryer whirring] - [people chattering] 620 00:34:31,823 --> 00:34:34,701 I can't believe we're all, like, from small towns all over the world 621 00:34:34,701 --> 00:34:36,411 and then we're like, "Wait, we're all here," 622 00:34:36,411 --> 00:34:39,079 - today shooting this thing, you know. - Exactly. 623 00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:40,498 With Steven. 624 00:34:40,916 --> 00:34:42,459 I just... I know we're gonna get it. 625 00:34:42,459 --> 00:34:44,628 Like, there's no question when you're with Steven, 626 00:34:44,628 --> 00:34:47,463 you're gonna get the shot. That's it. 627 00:34:47,463 --> 00:34:50,967 Steven Meisel today, he's very private. 628 00:34:50,967 --> 00:34:53,345 But I feel like for insurance purposes, 629 00:34:53,345 --> 00:34:56,306 for what we're looking for in this group, 630 00:34:56,306 --> 00:34:59,893 we'll all feel well looked-after, 631 00:34:59,893 --> 00:35:04,606 and, like, the image will be something that will endure. 632 00:35:06,316 --> 00:35:12,530 He has, sort of, the most consistent, holistic, beautiful... 633 00:35:12,530 --> 00:35:14,824 And it's, like, it could be fast and simple. 634 00:35:14,824 --> 00:35:16,493 it doesn't have to be... 635 00:35:16,493 --> 00:35:18,495 We used to always call it giving birth. 636 00:35:18,495 --> 00:35:20,080 Um, it doesn't have to be giving birth. 637 00:35:21,456 --> 00:35:26,545 I think the story, the direction, the angle and the trust, really. 638 00:35:26,545 --> 00:35:30,215 The image, if you look back over the time of any of our careers, 639 00:35:30,215 --> 00:35:34,177 the ones that still hold up are those ones. 640 00:35:34,177 --> 00:35:36,846 All the stars kind of aligned. 641 00:35:39,099 --> 00:35:41,017 [Linda] They were all a character. 642 00:35:42,727 --> 00:35:45,146 'Cause it certainly wasn't me. 643 00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:50,193 That's why I love the fashion world so much. 644 00:35:52,904 --> 00:35:56,908 {\an8}It's, like, a way of getting to be who you want to be. 645 00:35:59,077 --> 00:36:04,416 I wanted to be a model, but becoming a mom, 646 00:36:04,416 --> 00:36:10,130 that's the most fulfilling thing that has ever happened to me. 647 00:36:11,214 --> 00:36:12,424 My son... 648 00:36:13,717 --> 00:36:15,051 He's fun... 649 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,095 he's easy... 650 00:36:17,971 --> 00:36:19,222 kind... 651 00:36:19,931 --> 00:36:22,642 We're a small family, it's just me and him. 652 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,188 He's been my rock. He's been so supportive. 653 00:36:31,484 --> 00:36:33,361 [Kim Jones] I didn't really know Linda. 654 00:36:33,361 --> 00:36:36,907 But, you know, I'd loved her as a fan, 655 00:36:36,907 --> 00:36:40,035 and... and I wrote her a letter 'cause I'd seen the People magazine article 656 00:36:40,035 --> 00:36:42,495 and I just saw her and she looked beautiful. 657 00:36:42,495 --> 00:36:46,166 And I thought, you know, why don't I ask and see if she wants to do 658 00:36:46,166 --> 00:36:48,919 a show for Fendi in New York. 659 00:36:48,919 --> 00:36:53,006 {\an8}So, it's a straight walk and then-- And we'll do it now. 660 00:36:53,006 --> 00:36:56,259 Yeah, so what we'll do is, we'll look towards you, 661 00:36:56,259 --> 00:36:59,221 start clapping and then you come towards us. 662 00:36:59,221 --> 00:37:01,097 - [Linda] What-- Why are you clap--? - Because it's you. 663 00:37:01,097 --> 00:37:02,891 - Not for me, no! - Don't be silly. 664 00:37:02,891 --> 00:37:05,101 - I'm here for you! - We're celebrating you as well. 665 00:37:05,101 --> 00:37:08,647 - [technician] Then pull it a bit longer. - We're here for you as well. 666 00:37:08,647 --> 00:37:11,191 - [Linda] I'm here to support you. - And you. 667 00:37:13,401 --> 00:37:15,570 [Jones] We really wanted to celebrate her. 668 00:37:15,570 --> 00:37:19,241 And it was, like, a real, sort of safe space for her to be in, 669 00:37:19,241 --> 00:37:21,243 and like, you know, her family, almost. 670 00:37:21,243 --> 00:37:23,870 - [indistinct chatter] - I want a hug too! 671 00:37:23,870 --> 00:37:26,373 [faint up-tempo music playing] 672 00:37:26,373 --> 00:37:29,042 I haven't been in this situation in years. 673 00:37:29,042 --> 00:37:31,086 Uh, I... I feel like that. 674 00:37:31,086 --> 00:37:35,549 You know, and this is a celebration. So, let's do it. 675 00:37:38,301 --> 00:37:39,844 [Linda] After all these years... 676 00:37:41,346 --> 00:37:44,266 I just didn't want to hide anymore. 677 00:37:44,266 --> 00:37:45,433 I didn't... 678 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,937 [voice shaking] I wanted to start living again. 679 00:37:48,937 --> 00:37:52,524 So when I get in the middle of you, can you step forward? 680 00:37:52,524 --> 00:37:54,067 [man speaking, indistinct] 681 00:37:54,067 --> 00:37:55,527 Okay. 682 00:37:55,527 --> 00:38:00,031 No one ever held my age against me, ever. 683 00:38:00,031 --> 00:38:03,868 And I think our generation of models... 684 00:38:04,828 --> 00:38:09,499 ...made people's perceptions of what beauty is... 685 00:38:11,543 --> 00:38:13,003 ...change. 686 00:38:14,212 --> 00:38:19,426 Beauty doesn't have to have an ending or a... expiry date. 687 00:38:20,427 --> 00:38:24,306 They used to say beauty is not sustainable. 688 00:38:24,306 --> 00:38:28,018 It's, like, youth is not sustainable. 689 00:38:28,018 --> 00:38:31,146 Beauty is. There's a difference. 690 00:38:33,857 --> 00:38:36,109 [applause, cheering] 691 00:38:36,109 --> 00:38:41,114 [Jones] Watching her on a runway and just how she owns it and controls it 692 00:38:41,114 --> 00:38:45,160 and knows how to play with an audience, it's almost like an actor. 693 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,372 And I think that's the kind of thing that's really fascinating to watch. 694 00:38:49,372 --> 00:38:51,541 - [animated chatter] - [woman hums fanfare] 695 00:38:51,541 --> 00:38:54,920 [people cheering, whistling] 696 00:38:58,089 --> 00:39:01,343 [Jones] Backstage after the show, when Linda came out... 697 00:39:01,343 --> 00:39:04,179 - Feel the bag. Feel it. - Oh, my God. Oh, my God. 698 00:39:04,179 --> 00:39:05,972 ...all the girls just freaked out, all the new-- 699 00:39:05,972 --> 00:39:08,850 You know, new generation of models was like, "Oh, my God. That's Linda." 700 00:39:09,309 --> 00:39:10,894 You looked gorgeous. 701 00:39:13,313 --> 00:39:15,106 [Jones] They were, like, just, like, all in shock. 702 00:39:15,106 --> 00:39:18,735 And that was just really sweet because, you know, that's their idol. 703 00:39:18,735 --> 00:39:22,364 And the one thing with supermodels is they still appeal to young people 704 00:39:22,364 --> 00:39:27,494 because they, you know, that's what those girls want to-- wanted to be. 705 00:39:27,494 --> 00:39:30,330 - [people calling out] - [cameras clicking] 706 00:39:41,341 --> 00:39:42,175 [Linda] Oh... 707 00:39:42,175 --> 00:39:43,510 [excited chatter] 708 00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:44,469 - [man] Hey! - [Linda] Hey! 709 00:39:44,469 --> 00:39:47,055 [all chattering] 710 00:39:49,683 --> 00:39:51,977 - [Cindy] How are you? - [Linda] I'm here. [laughs] 711 00:39:51,977 --> 00:39:53,728 - I know, I'm proud of you. - [Linda] It's gonna be fun. 712 00:39:53,728 --> 00:39:55,897 - [Cindy] I know! - [Linda] This sounds like a reunion. 713 00:39:55,897 --> 00:39:57,607 [Cindy] I know. I don't like that we're all split up. 714 00:39:57,607 --> 00:40:01,486 [Christy] You wanted to separate? I was like, "Who asked for this?" 715 00:40:01,486 --> 00:40:03,071 [laughs] 716 00:40:03,071 --> 00:40:04,406 - Hi. - Hi. 717 00:40:06,074 --> 00:40:07,033 - [Guido] Hi. - [Christy] Which one are you? 718 00:40:07,033 --> 00:40:08,743 - [Linda] I don't know. - [woman] You're next door. Next door. 719 00:40:08,743 --> 00:40:10,829 Oh, okay. You're right. We can open our curtain. 720 00:40:10,829 --> 00:40:13,707 - [Linda] Oh, nice. Oh, okay. - [Christy] Okay. 721 00:40:13,707 --> 00:40:15,333 [Linda] Okay, I'll see you in a minute. 722 00:40:20,839 --> 00:40:21,673 - [Naomi] Good to see you. - [Linda] How are you? 723 00:40:21,673 --> 00:40:23,133 - [Naomi] Good, thank you. - [Linda] Nice to see you. 724 00:40:23,133 --> 00:40:25,176 - You too. - See you in a bit. 725 00:40:25,176 --> 00:40:27,596 So... hair's done. 726 00:40:27,596 --> 00:40:29,306 [man laughing] 727 00:40:29,306 --> 00:40:31,766 The hair's done. Okay. 728 00:40:33,685 --> 00:40:36,938 I would love to take my hat off but I'm not gonna take my hat off until... 729 00:40:36,938 --> 00:40:39,107 [woman] Do you want me to grab Sandy and Guido? 730 00:40:39,983 --> 00:40:42,652 No. Well, yeah, actually, they should go first. 731 00:40:42,652 --> 00:40:43,987 - Sure. Yeah. - [Guido] Hi. 732 00:40:45,488 --> 00:40:47,616 So, I always massage Linda first, she demands it. 733 00:40:47,616 --> 00:40:50,076 Yeah. [laughs] 734 00:40:50,076 --> 00:40:52,454 Who's your easiest client? 735 00:40:52,454 --> 00:40:54,372 - You. - Of course. 736 00:40:54,372 --> 00:40:57,667 - Of course. - Don't believe a word you've heard, right? 737 00:40:57,667 --> 00:40:59,252 - Don't believe anything. - [laughing] 738 00:40:59,252 --> 00:41:02,756 [stylist] Me or her? Okay. 739 00:41:07,177 --> 00:41:09,638 [Christy] It feels, like, consistent with some of the things I sent. 740 00:41:09,638 --> 00:41:11,014 - [stylist] Right. - But also... 741 00:41:11,014 --> 00:41:13,975 - ...today, modern, but-- - Elevated. Yeah. Yeah. 742 00:41:13,975 --> 00:41:15,644 - [Christy] Yeah. I like it. - It almost feels real. 743 00:41:15,644 --> 00:41:19,773 - And not retro, it's... - I know from him, he wanted it to feel... 744 00:41:19,773 --> 00:41:20,899 - Ourselves. - Yeah. 745 00:41:20,899 --> 00:41:22,192 And he's like, "It's not a fashion shoot." 746 00:41:22,192 --> 00:41:23,818 Meanwhile, we have a bunch of fashion stuff. 747 00:41:23,818 --> 00:41:26,571 - Yeah. - But, this is... 748 00:41:26,571 --> 00:41:28,323 - Yeah. - ...elevated. You know, it's not jeans 749 00:41:28,323 --> 00:41:31,201 - but it feels... - No, especially if it's next to others... 750 00:41:31,201 --> 00:41:33,203 - Exactly, yeah. Yeah. - ...who might have more going on. 751 00:41:33,203 --> 00:41:34,579 - Levels. - Yeah. 752 00:41:34,579 --> 00:41:36,581 Okay, I think we're done here. 753 00:41:38,792 --> 00:41:40,919 [Cindy] I like the double look, don't you? 754 00:41:40,919 --> 00:41:42,546 - More moda. - Yeah. 755 00:41:43,964 --> 00:41:46,716 You guys always make it sound so chic. [laughs] 756 00:41:46,716 --> 00:41:48,176 I'm like, "I like the bigger one." 757 00:41:48,176 --> 00:41:49,803 [stylist laughs] 758 00:41:51,054 --> 00:41:52,264 - [woman] I love it. - Yeah. 759 00:41:52,264 --> 00:41:53,473 That's cool. 760 00:41:53,473 --> 00:41:56,560 [Linda] Those Manolo are the ones he made for me a long time ago. 761 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,936 [stylist] Perfect shape, too. 762 00:41:57,936 --> 00:41:59,729 [Linda] They used to be called Evangelista 763 00:41:59,729 --> 00:42:01,356 and now they're just called... 764 00:42:01,356 --> 00:42:03,275 Now they're called Gelista. 765 00:42:03,275 --> 00:42:06,695 - Or now, yeah, they have the bow and... - Little bow on the front, yes. 766 00:42:06,695 --> 00:42:08,572 [Linda] That's from the early '90s. 767 00:42:09,281 --> 00:42:11,616 It's still good. It's timeless. 768 00:42:13,410 --> 00:42:15,495 [Christy] Yeah. 'Cause, I mean, we're never really together like that. 769 00:42:15,495 --> 00:42:18,582 [stylist] I know. When was the last time, do you guys know? 770 00:42:19,332 --> 00:42:23,795 That-- With Steven, and a group, not in years, honestly. 771 00:42:25,338 --> 00:42:27,841 [man] Last looks, last checks. 772 00:42:28,633 --> 00:42:31,094 [Christy, whispers] Let's go. [chuckles] 773 00:42:31,094 --> 00:42:33,221 [Cindy] Let's do one check in the mirror. 774 00:42:34,222 --> 00:42:35,348 [Christy] How are we doing? 775 00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:39,519 I think I need less hairspray. [laughs] 776 00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:41,771 Oh, too late! 777 00:42:43,189 --> 00:42:46,151 [Linda] I don't believe we got the four of us together. 778 00:42:46,151 --> 00:42:47,402 - That's been a while. - [Naomi] I can't believe... 779 00:42:47,402 --> 00:42:49,863 - [Christy] I still can't remember. - [Cindy] Vanity Fair, I was thinking. 780 00:42:49,863 --> 00:42:52,198 - [Christy] Vanity Fair. You're right. - [Cindy] Okay, yes. 781 00:42:52,198 --> 00:42:53,366 And it wasn't just the four of us. 782 00:42:53,366 --> 00:42:55,535 - [Christy] With Stephanie and Claudia. - [Cindy] And Claudia. 783 00:42:55,535 --> 00:42:57,037 [Linda] Claudia was there, yeah, Stephanie. 784 00:42:57,037 --> 00:42:59,748 - They were our generation. - [Cindy] They were our generation. 785 00:43:01,875 --> 00:43:05,503 [Christy] I mean, I think everything about us here today 786 00:43:05,503 --> 00:43:07,839 is, sort of, the opposite of what I imagined 787 00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:10,008 when I first came into the industry. 788 00:43:11,551 --> 00:43:14,387 Like, I thought it was, like, gonna be a minute... 789 00:43:15,472 --> 00:43:18,433 ...and life would go on. 790 00:43:19,392 --> 00:43:21,853 And life has gone on. 791 00:43:23,271 --> 00:43:24,606 But it's been... 792 00:43:24,606 --> 00:43:26,524 [echoing laughter] 793 00:43:27,150 --> 00:43:28,401 ...decades. 794 00:43:33,031 --> 00:43:37,077 [Todd Oldham] Magic happens when the stars align. 795 00:43:37,077 --> 00:43:40,497 When an exquisite model shows up with the right designer 796 00:43:40,497 --> 00:43:42,415 and the right photographer in the right light and the right make-up. 797 00:43:42,415 --> 00:43:44,584 You can do these transcendent things that... 798 00:43:44,584 --> 00:43:45,961 {\an8}[camera shutter clicks] 799 00:43:45,961 --> 00:43:47,254 {\an8}...last forever. 800 00:43:47,879 --> 00:43:54,261 They were refining, you know, images to become very iconic. 801 00:43:54,928 --> 00:43:56,304 [shutter click] 802 00:43:56,304 --> 00:44:01,810 {\an8}I-I'm just flattered. I'm glad I reached that level. 803 00:44:02,602 --> 00:44:05,355 [Goodman] They brought their artistry... 804 00:44:05,355 --> 00:44:06,898 [shutter clicks] 805 00:44:06,898 --> 00:44:08,858 ...to the image. 806 00:44:08,858 --> 00:44:10,151 It's really phenomenal. 807 00:44:10,610 --> 00:44:13,113 [Jeanne Beker] You can't say every model in the fashion business... 808 00:44:13,113 --> 00:44:14,531 [shutter clicks] 809 00:44:14,531 --> 00:44:16,074 ...is an artist. 810 00:44:16,074 --> 00:44:18,952 {\an8}But some really are. 811 00:44:20,745 --> 00:44:22,122 [shutter clicks] 812 00:44:22,706 --> 00:44:25,500 Models still are glamorous because that's what we do. 813 00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:28,378 Um, and that's what people... 814 00:44:28,962 --> 00:44:31,131 They want to look at it and they want to see it. 815 00:44:33,758 --> 00:44:36,845 [Emily Bierman] The photographs had such a huge impact 816 00:44:36,845 --> 00:44:39,598 {\an8}in the larger landscape of art 817 00:44:40,348 --> 00:44:45,353 because they're endlessly intriguing to look at. 818 00:44:46,479 --> 00:44:49,733 {\an8}They're like when you look at Renaissance paintings. 819 00:44:49,733 --> 00:44:52,944 {\an8}The Mona Lisa was the face of her era. 820 00:44:54,571 --> 00:44:59,409 [Bierman] Today, there's a strong market for fashion photography. 821 00:44:59,409 --> 00:45:03,788 At auction, you might see prices that are a couple thousand dollars... 822 00:45:04,706 --> 00:45:09,920 ...to a million dollars or more because they're icons of a generation. 823 00:45:11,129 --> 00:45:14,799 Those girls defined power for women. 824 00:45:15,217 --> 00:45:17,260 It was women supporting each other. 825 00:45:18,053 --> 00:45:19,763 And people listened to them. 826 00:45:20,388 --> 00:45:23,892 They were the first influencers of fashion. 827 00:45:25,018 --> 00:45:27,979 {\an8}[Jacobs] Cindy, Linda, Christy, Naomi. 828 00:45:27,979 --> 00:45:30,774 {\an8}They're larger-than-life. They're names that everybody knows. 829 00:45:30,774 --> 00:45:34,277 {\an8}People who've never bought a designer dress know who those women are. 830 00:45:35,237 --> 00:45:40,575 {\an8}[Galliano] Those girls took it to a level of professionalism and perfection. 831 00:45:40,575 --> 00:45:43,078 {\an8}They're super in more ways than they're real. 832 00:45:44,329 --> 00:45:47,582 [Suzy Menkes] I think the fact the super models are still around 833 00:45:47,582 --> 00:45:50,544 {\an8}proves that they really never went out of fashion. 834 00:45:52,087 --> 00:45:55,382 [Enninful] Cindy, Linda, Christy and Naomi 835 00:45:55,382 --> 00:45:58,176 are still redefining what it means to be a model. 836 00:45:59,094 --> 00:46:01,346 - [Christy] I'm so happy to see you. - [man] Let's start it with Christy. 837 00:46:01,346 --> 00:46:03,265 - [Naomi] So, that's a good thing, I guess. - [Linda] I know. 838 00:46:03,265 --> 00:46:04,391 [Cindy laughs] 839 00:46:04,808 --> 00:46:06,184 [Naomi] Can we go, like, straight? 840 00:46:06,184 --> 00:46:08,395 [Cindy] We want to go, like, just more like... 841 00:46:09,145 --> 00:46:11,189 ["Freedom! '90" by George Michael playing] 842 00:46:11,189 --> 00:46:13,942 [Linda] Oh, oh. Okay, get us in the mood! Get us in the mood. 843 00:46:13,942 --> 00:46:14,985 [woman] Ready to go? 844 00:46:14,985 --> 00:46:16,987 - [Linda] Ready! - Okay. 845 00:46:20,740 --> 00:46:22,742 [Christy] There's been lots of phases, and we've all gone through 846 00:46:22,742 --> 00:46:26,454 so many things in our own lives, personally, and professionally. 847 00:46:26,454 --> 00:46:27,664 [younger Christy] I don't think I've changed that much. 848 00:46:27,664 --> 00:46:30,625 The same people that I started to hang around with when I first started 849 00:46:30,625 --> 00:46:32,627 are the same people that I'm with now. 850 00:46:33,128 --> 00:46:35,338 [Naomi] I think when you come together with people 851 00:46:35,338 --> 00:46:38,633 that have been part of your journey and you consider them chosen family, 852 00:46:38,633 --> 00:46:40,886 - I think that's emotional. - [phone camera clicks] 853 00:46:40,886 --> 00:46:43,513 Just take it day by day and what comes, comes. 854 00:46:44,347 --> 00:46:46,725 And all the big girls are the nicest ones. 855 00:46:46,725 --> 00:46:50,145 [Linda] I feel blessed that we're here today. 856 00:46:50,145 --> 00:46:53,607 There's something about that shared history that we have. 857 00:46:55,984 --> 00:46:58,904 We can never have it with anybody else. 858 00:46:58,904 --> 00:47:02,073 [all singing] ♪...and make them true somehow ♪ 859 00:47:02,824 --> 00:47:06,036 ♪ All we have to see ♪ [laughing] 860 00:47:06,036 --> 00:47:08,914 ♪ Is that I don't belong to you ♪ 861 00:47:08,914 --> 00:47:11,082 ♪ And you don't belong to me ♪ 862 00:47:11,082 --> 00:47:12,000 ♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 863 00:47:12,959 --> 00:47:15,837 ["Freedom! '90" continues]